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Papada
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Posted: 05/26/08 08:28 PM
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Is there anyone out there that makes A 1300cc class water cooled , shaft drive , fuel injected Cruiser ? I have a Suzuki C50 but it just needs a 6th gear at freeway speeds 70 + MPH. Other than that I think it is the best mid size Cruiser I have ever riden.
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Posted: 05/28/08 03:15 AM
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try the new Yamaha the good 'ole Honda 1300, both meet your criteria.
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tealw1
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Posted: 05/28/08 04:19 PM
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The Yamah VStar 1300 is belt drive, but everything else meets your spec.
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Papada
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Posted: 05/28/08 05:22 PM
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Yes the Yamah is belt drive.The Honda is carb not fuel injection . Thanks for the feed back just wanted to know if there is another option.
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Posted: 05/29/08 06:37 AM
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i have a 08 C50 and do not need a 6th gear at highway speeds of 70 - 80+. I can run 80 all day without any problems. I am 5'7" weigh in at 160. Maybe you need to get your bike in for maintenance.
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frbock
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Posted: 05/29/08 07:01 PM
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Nope, he doesn't need a 6th gear, just a different ear. Everybody is so into the "low RPM high torque" mantra that they don't let the bike be the bike.
My Drifter stock ran at 4200 at 70. I played around with the gears and got it down to 4000. (redline was somewhere past 7,000). I could do 80-85 for 8 hours, stopping only to refuel every couple of hours. A lot of people have the mindset that the RPMs have to be low. True on a HD which redlines at about 5k. Sportbikes redline at 11k+ and don't develop power until 7k.
Most important thing is to understand how your bike wants to be ridden (powerband, roughly the space between max torque, and max hp). If you keep a ninja under 3k, it's a dog. If you rev a HD to 11k, it blows up.
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Papada
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Posted: 05/29/08 08:28 PM
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That may be the info I need but just seems to drink more fuel over 70 MPH.Thanks for the reply
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LMcNair27
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Posted: 06/04/08 07:27 PM
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I've been doing some research looking for basically the same thing. It's a bit larger than what you're looking for, but you might check out the Kawasaki Vulcan 1500. The Vulcan 1500 is a bit out of my price range, but I am considering a Vulcan 900. The Suzuki Boulevard series is curious, because the smaller C50's and M50 (800cc) are all Liquid Cooled, as are the larger C109's and M109's (1800cc), but the mid-size C90's (1500cc) are Air/Oil cooled, along with the S86 (1350cc), which is also carbureted. I think someone's already mentioned the Honda and the V Star, which are each 2 out of 3. If you find something else, let me know, because I would love a liquid cooled, fuel injected, shaft driven cruiser in the 1100-1300cc range.
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frbock
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Posted: 06/04/08 07:27 PM
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That one's almost easy to diagnose. In basic terms (hey I do read Cruiser tech tips, and remember) by the time you are up to 70, you are probably at at least 1/2 on the throttle. That is main jet territory. If you had it re-jetted, the main jet may be a little too big. Find someone who can dyno the bike. A good dyno can get info that would take forever any other way. It's a real world run in a small space. If you're in New England, let me know, I know a good dyno man. He looked at my bike, told me 3 things to get corrected before he'd run the bike, told me to call him if it didn't solve my problem, and didn't charge me a dime. He was right, my problems went away.
It's also the biggest argument for chain drive. $20 bucks gets a new sprocket, pop it in, and you have a different profile on the bike. 70 mph is now a little under 1/2
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Papada
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Posted: 06/05/08 08:51 PM
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That is what I am finding out The Vulcan 1600 Nomad might just be the Bike I'm looking for.Thanks for all the info.
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Posted: 08/09/08 12:14 PM
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Yamaha VStar 1300 FI, WC, BD, No shaft, belt better anyway
Outranks Honda in latest road test(s) by various ragz
.:Rock:.
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frbock
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Posted: 08/17/08 06:35 PM
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Scary thing, I've had all 3 (2 on one bike) Chain. Jerky, but maximum power transfer Belt(same bike) Much smoother, no lash. Since I was aftermarket, I hit reliability issues. Shaft. Yes, sometimes you get jacking, and you get the odd rear end jumping up when you hit the gas.
If I could get it bullet reliable, my 1st choice would be belt , 2nd would be shaft. If on the other hand I wanted to play with gear ratios (ok change them), my only choice is chain. $20 for a new sprocket.
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